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What’s A Guy Supposed To Do …………. Do Not Pass Go Do Not Collect $200 ……….. Afterall The NFL Is Definitely A Business


To say I was surprised when I first heard and then read that the New England Patriots had indeed traded their defensive stalwart , Richard Seymour to the Oakland Raiders. Well, let’s just say that as a die-hard Patriots’ fan , it left me feeling somewhat devastated. As, he’s one of my favorite players on the Patriots’ roster.

Patriots'  coach  Bill  Belichick   listens  to  reporter's  questions  at  the  team's   training  facility  in  Foxborough,  Mass.   The  coach  was   reluctant  to  discuss  the  Richard  Seymour   situation.   Choosing  to   deflect  questions   rather  than  answering  them  directly.     The  player   was   traded  to the  Oakland  Raiders  in  exchange   for  a  first  round  draft  pick  in  2011.   Seymour,  however,  has  yet  to   report   to  the  Raiders   facility . Nor  has  he  been  in  touch  to  communicate with  anyone  within  either  organization.         picture  appears  courtesy of  ap/photo/ Stephan  Savoia   ............
Patriots' coach Bill Belichick listens to reporter's questions at the team's training facility in Foxborough, Mass. The coach was reluctant to discuss the Richard Seymour situation. Choosing to deflect questions rather than answering them directly. The player was traded to the Oakland Raiders in exchange for a first round draft pick in 2011. Seymour, however, has yet to report to the Raiders facility . Nor has he been in touch to communicate with anyone within either organization. picture appears courtesy of ap/photo/ Stephan Savoia ............

And while I don’t deny that the Patriots’ coach Bill Belichick is a genius . OK , stop it , those of you who still see him as a cheat ! In the words of Rodney King ‘…..why just can’t we all just get along ?’ It’s over and done with !

Patriots'  quarterback  Tom  Brady  at  the  team's   practice   facility  in  Foxborough,  Mass  ,  on  Wednesday  afternoon.    picture  appears  courtesy  of  ap/photo/ Stephan  Savoia   ...........................
Patriots' quarterback Tom Brady at the team's practice facility in Foxborough, Mass , on Wednesday afternoon. picture appears courtesy of ap/photo/ Stephan Savoia ...........................

This move , I may well have to question as to the sanity of it all ! There’s no denying that the Patriots are still something of a formidable team. But in terms of sheer leadership on the defensive side of the ball. It was to the likes of Tedy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel , Rodney Harrison and indeed Seymour, who formed the linch-pin for the team , as far as that was concerned. That I for one would’ve thought that the team would be in need of Seymour, his presence but above all his leadership qualities. With Bruschi and Rodney Harrison , now retired . And Vrabel being sent into oblivion to ply his wares with the Kansas City Chiefs. The thought of this team being without Seymour there to helm the defensive line sends shudders down my spine. It was bad enough seeing Tom Brady not being adequately protected by his offensive line in Superbowl XLII . Especially after the injury sustained by then , guard, Stephen Neal . Thereafter, the New York Giants were simply allowed to have their way with the team. Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora and Michael Strahan must’ve felt that Christmas had come early for them.

ESPN’s annoucement that Seymour had been traded to the Oakland Raiders.

Courtesy of Yahoo Sports and AP :

Belichick remains mum on Seymour trade

Foxborough-MASS,.(AP) Bill Belichick says he’ll deal with any developments in the Richard Seymour trade when they happen.

The five-time Pro Bowl defensive end hasn’t reported to the Oakland Raiders after being traded by the New England Patriots for a first round draft pick in 2011 .

Asked Wednesday if he was monitoring the situation closely , Belichick said the Patriots are monitoring the Buffalo Bills closely. They play the Bills on Monday night in a season opener.

And when told that Seymour could end up back with the Patriots , the coach said he’ll deal with whatever happens when it happens.

On Monday, Belichick said he wouldn’t answer questions about Seymour because the team doesn’t have the rights to him.

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Patriots'  defensive  lineman   Richard  Seymour   reacts  after   sacking   the  New  York  Jets'   Brett  Favre   in  an  NFL   game  from  last   season  played in  East  Rutherford  ,  New  Jersey  .    picture  appears  courtesy  of   ap/photo/   Julie  Jacobson   ............................
Patriots' defensive lineman Richard Seymour reacts after sacking the New York Jets' Brett Favre in an NFL game from last season played in East Rutherford , New Jersey . picture appears courtesy of ap/photo/ Julie Jacobson ............................

And now with that debacle seemingly behind the team. We now go into the 2009-10 season , with a fresh set of goals to pursue. And with the AFC East now afresh with new blood and the likes of the New York Jets and Miami Dolphins seemingly resurgent. That’s not to say that I’m writing off the Buffalo Bills. But as we all know ‘absolutely no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.’ The division is there, and with more than a great deal to play for. We can if anything , still view the New England Patriots as the prohibitive favorites to win the division outright. But to my mind the task of winning the Superbowl itself , just became somewhat more difficult with the loss of Seymour.

Eagles'  quarterback   Donovan McNabb  is  sacked  by  the  Patriots'  Richard  Seymour  (93) and   teammate  Willie McGinest   during  an  NFL   game  .    picture  appears  courtesy  of   boston globe/photo/  Jim  Davis  ........................
Eagles' quarterback Donovan McNabb is sacked by the Patriots' Richard Seymour (93) and teammate Willie McGinest during an NFL game . picture appears courtesy of boston globe/photo/ Jim Davis ........................

The maneuver by the team may well be viewed as once again them being financially frugal. The player however, was closing in on the end of his current contract. And if anything, was looking for a long term renewal -perhaps raising the ante as to its financial value. It’s certainly not clear as to whether or not there was an impasse as to the negotiations surrounding Seymour’s contract. As neither side had made a public statement. But as we all know with the Patriots, they’ve always remained secretive when it comes to such things. But yet again there’s the feeling that a player is always in the unenviable position of not knowing whether or not he’s of value to franchise. Especially when it comes to the renegotiating of a contract of a seasoned veteran. Loyalty, much like pendulum swings both ways. But with the NFL there is no loyalty beyond the efforts of the player on the field of play. As long he’s performing then he’s bound to get paid. But there are in-fact times when a player is looked upon as being no longer a valuable asset. And then he’s discarded much like a well worn old pair of shoes. They’ll still no doubt fit but they’re no longer desirable to its particular owner. Once discarded there’s always someone there to take a liking to an old pair shoes. In this case it happened to be the Oakland Raiders. Of whom it can be said …..they’ve always been willing to accept everyone else’s cast-offs’.

However, I do believe that this particular maneuver could indeed come back to haunt the New England Patriots. They may well be viewed as a team where there’s always a familial atmosphere , where there’s said to be no voice of dissent. But in actuality this could set off a tumult of discord within the franchise. Belichick may well have that Svengali like approach when it comes to the running of the franchise. And granted , he alongside then GM, Scott Pioli , were the architects behind the renaissance of the franchise and their success. I do believe however, that this time around, Belichick has made a profound mistake with this trade. I don’t even think that the team’s signing of former Raiders’ player, Derrick Burgess – a player, who shall we say, is of limited ability when measured against that of Seymour. But yet within the mindset of Belichick , this seemingly makes things alright , as he views it.

In the case of Seymour despite an injury he was still very passionate about the game. And unquestionably one couldn’t deny the leadership qualities he brought to the franchise. He led by example and his teammates willingly followed. Now with the trade , Seymour has yet to report to the Raiders. And both organizations it’d appear , are at a loss for words. As to what the outcome of this may well be . One can only but take the approach of wait and see. As it now stands there’s a distinct feeling that as things are now playing out. There isn’t liable to be a happy ending for either party.

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17 thoughts on “What’s A Guy Supposed To Do …………. Do Not Pass Go Do Not Collect $200 ……….. Afterall The NFL Is Definitely A Business

  1. Being a Raiders fan, I don’t think I can understand these minor issues within your locker room. I doubt that it’ll have much of an effect on the Pats, they seem to deal with losing key players easily, and someone else steps right in… I actually thought that we got screwed in the deal until I quickly realized that we botch most of our draft picks anyways so at least we won’t have to lock up another bust for six years. I understand Seymor did a lot for your team over the years, but he’s old and on the decline now. I feel like we just got Sapp part 2…

  2. We will see. I don’t like giving up a first round draft pick on a guy that has missed some time due to injury and is only under contract for another year. He is clearly holding out for another deal.

    This usually has bad results for the team holding the player who wants a new deal. Once the deal is signed with the bonus money, the players performance seems to dip. This might be the right time to get rid of a player like that.

    Burgess had a lot of sacks with the Raiders so he can be a good source of pressure from the edge.

    Belicheck is a cheater, cut and dried. Spygate was on him and should be remembered and not brushed under the rug. He is the modern day equivalent of Richard Nixon. Both men were extremely smart, but felt that they were inadequate for some unknown reason and felt the need to cheat. Nixon didn’t need Watergate, he was going to win. Bill Belicheat didn’t need spygate.

    Finally, he seems like an ass….I am fine with his dress, but when they lost in 07, he just brushed Peyton off, because he was butt hurt. be a man and congratulate the winners!

    1. Steve

      The pick is only a precursor. But bear this in mind , who have the Raiders got that they can point to, as a vocal leader on their team ? Jamarcus Russelll ? Darren McFadden ? In fact it’s neither , as the team is still ill disciplined. As to Burgess , he tends to have lapses where he’s in and out of a game. Which isn’t what I for one, would like to see from a player.

      Belcihick cheated and granted he got caught. But do you honestly believe that this isn’t rampant and widespread across the NFL ? I for one wanted him to be suspended and a financial penalty imposed on him and the organization. But it didn’t happen as Kraft was one of the guys who in effect paved the way for Goodell to get the commissioner’s post within the NFL.

      And far as sportsmanship and proper conduct goes. Shouldn’t you also be concerned with Cable’s and how he carries himself with regard to his coaching staff ? Don’t tell me you think his actions with Hanson were approriate and above reproach ?

      Alan Parkins

      1. I am not throwing stones living in a glass house, but that is poor sportsmanship.

        As for Cable and Hanson, brothers fight all the time behind closed doors. This was one of those situations that we would not have found out about without the prying eyes of the internet. That doesn’t excuse it at all. The coach can’t hit players or other coaches, whether its Woody Hayes or Tom Cable.

        As for my concern, it’s the Raiders. Its a madhouse over here….Al Davis needs to be concerned with the coaching staff, I will do my part as fan and continue to root for them. Everyone needs to just do their jobs and we will be fine…

  3. chappy81

    The problem being is that on the Pats’ defense there’s no one there that you can now point to and call them the team’s vocal leader on the defensive side. Well all know who it is on the offensive side of the ball. As that’s down to Moss and Brady combined.

    This is where I’ve got to take the opposing view with regard to Belichick. Who’d you say is the leader on the Raiders to begin with ? On either side of the ball for that matter ? Clearly Russell isn’t it !

    Seymour can still play but it’s clear that I don’t think he’d be willing to play for a team that lacks discipline on both sides of the ball. And that’s what one can clearly see with the Raiders.

    So think long and hard about it before replying .

    Alan Parkins

  4. I have no sympathy for any Patriots gripes you may have. Sure Seymor may have been a good leader, but last year they lost Brady, their ultimate leader, and still won a ton of games. Anyways, I think you’re being too dramatic about losing Seymor…

    As for the Raiders, they have one captain on defense Asomugha who just got his six year deal, and he is a leader in the clubhouse and on the field. The offense needs Jemarcus to be a leader, but he really isn’t… Football is much more of a team game kind of like baseball. You can have a star, but you need to have a few to win. I think if I were you, I’d be happy with a top ten pick in 2011 coming my way!

    I’m not sure why you’re so down of Burgess, he was the only good player we had on our D-line the past couple seasons. I don’t think he’s any more over the hill than Seymor is…

    1. chappy

      The only gripe I have with Belichick has been the fact that his actions with regard to Spygate set the tone for something I felt wasn’t needed within the organization. If you read my response directly you’ll see that I don’t condone it in any way. In-fact I felt that Goodell should’ve meted out a stiffer penalty not only on Belichick but also the organization.

      ……”Belcihick cheated and granted he got caught. But do you honestly believe that this isn’t rampant and widespread across the NFL ? I for one wanted him to be suspended and a financial penalty imposed on him and the organization. But it didn’t happen as Kraft was one of the guys who in effect paved the way for Goodell to get the commissioner’s post within the NFL.

      And far as sportsmanship and proper conduct goes. Shouldn’t you also be concerned with Cable’s and how he carries himself with regard to his coaching staff ? Don’t tell me you think his actions with Hanson were approriate and above reproach ? “

      As to the Raiders’ incident. If you think that it was the internet that was the only outlet whereby the masses would’ve found out about the incident then you’re in for an awakening. What next it’ll be acceptable for the coach to throw down with a player ?

      Let me know when Russell becomes more assertive rather than thinking that he can merely get away with his play by seemingly wanting launch 50 and 60yds passes into double coverage . Instead of reading the field and seeing what’s going on around him.

      As to Burgess when his mind is in the game he’s one of the better defensive linemen out there. But as I’ve alluded to , he has far too many moments where he lapses at the most inopportune of times.

      Alan Parkins

    1. Chris Humpherys

      There are always bigger and better things around the corner. Life is essentially about the opportunities afforded to you and whether or not you’re prepared to take and make good use of them from the outset.

      That’s the mantra that I try to live by at present . And it’s something taught to me by my mother. Thankfully I heeded her words !

      Alan Parkins

  5. I never really argued about the Belichek being a cheat. I could care less at this point…. I’m not big on Cable hitting another coach, but I’m sure there was a good reason if Hanson didn’t even want to originally press charges! I’m not sure why you said
    “If you think that it was the internet that was the only outlet whereby the masses would’ve found out about the incident then you’re in for an awakening. ”
    I never stated that nobody would have found out? I’m just confused in genral with your response…

    1. chappy

      When something like that happens within the locker room or in a meeting between a coach and an assistant. What sort of atmosphere do you think it creates amongnst – also the perception to the fans , as to the organization and what it’s meant to be about ? It’s bad enough that the Raiders’ fans have had to put up with a great deal of mediocrity since Gruden’s departure . Now this ?

      If Cable isn’t man enough to take Hanson aside and just speak to him coherently , then he oughtn’t to be a coach in the first place. Only an idiot lays hands on another person when they’re not even defending themselves and then acts as if nothing detrimental happened in the first place.

      You can’t tell me that you’re pleased with that ?

      Alan Parkins

      1. Well, to be honest we are used to this in Oakland, you remember Romanowski slugging a teammate five years ago? That turned out bad, but didn’t stop them from going to play the in the AFC Championship game in the “tuck rule” game. I think it’s a distraction, but nothing we haven’t seen before from a fan standpoint. Personally I found Jevon Walkers rant last season as more of a distraction. So what if it’s a coach, at least they aren’t on the field playing and getting booed.
        We obviously have a different viewpoint on this one…

  6. chappy81

    Well after a while I suppose you get use to it when there’s said to be more internal strife within a club . Especially when in the eyes of the fans it’s far more intriguing than anything that’s going on , on the field competitively.

    Now I’ve got to question what this actually does or says about Cable as a coach and also as a disciplinarian to begin with .

    Alan Parkins

  7. Well, as far as a dicipliarian, he’s definitly on top of it. Don’t you think that hitting another coach would make you not question the guy LOL!?! And you are right that we’ve suffered as fans for a good 7 years and it doesn’t look to be improving, but nothing really seems like it will as long as Al Davis is still around… Here’s a new one I put up if you’re into golf at all…

    http://doin-work.com/2009/09/11/stricker-trying-to-make-a-case-for-pga-player-of-the-year/

    1. chappy

      Cable had better prove himself up to the task this season. Because if not , I can see ol’ Al Davis putting him out to pasture the same way he’s done so many of Cable’s predecessors .

      Alan Parkins

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